Crescent Watch Case Co Serial Numbers
Lulu.com, 2007, Secondary sources [ ] • • Ludington Daily News, April 16, 1994; p. 1 and 2 • Ludington Daily News, March 20, 1995; p. 10 & 11 • National Association of Watch and Clock Collectors (NAWCC). Reprinted with permission. 360 @2006 from article 'Star Watch Case Company 1897-1982 by Jack Linahan with photos and comments from Dimitry Grabbe.' • Niebling, Warren H., History of the American watch case. Library of Congress Card Number 74-152358, Whitmore Publishing 1971 Footnotes [ ].
The table below with the serial numbers and years has be compiled from many sources and I believe it to be reasonably accurate, However, no table like this can be completely accurate because Elgin didn't produce watches in sequential order. It was very common for groups of watches to be set aside and finished months, years, or sometimes as much as a decade later. After the watch was finished, it might sit in a wholesaler's warehouse or a jewelry shop for months or years. About the best you can say that the watch was probably not produced or sold as 'new' before the date listed. High volume watches will tend to be closer to the date listed, while expensive, high quality watches will tend to be the ones that have misleading dates. New models of watches may be released before or after these general dates.
The bottom line is the value will always be determined by what someone is willing to pay for it and who can ever guess what that may be? Were made between 1851 and 1957 in the city of Waltham near Massachusetts in the USA.
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The movement and face are confusing to me. On the face it says the type of watch is F. Schneider New York. I cannot find any info on the watch maker/store.
Goldberg: Learn as much as you can before you spend too much money. Buy the Complete Price Guide to Watches, because that’s a really good overview of what’s out there and the prices you should be looking to pay. Join your local chapter of the NAWCC, because the best way to get experience is to talk to other collectors. I certainly wouldn’t discourage people from going out there and buying watches, but I’d say be careful and don’t try to buy the most expensive watches you can find.
From page 7: '. After a series of mergers in 1904 the name became the Keystone Watch Case Co., Riverside, N.J.'
Movement serial number is highlighted Elgin originally started out with just a number, but in the late 1930s they started to use a letter prefix on some of their serial numbers. Even later in the late 1950s, Elgin phased out the use of serial numbers. If your watch has a letter prefix, you must first replace that letter with the two digit 'millions' value from the following table. For example, H632161 would be converted into 47,632,161 and N7193 would be converted into 48,007,193.
Bartlett $16, Bartlett-Ladies $30, Appleton Tracy $38, A.T. & Co Ladies $40, and American Watch Grade $175! American Horology owes much to the brilliant visionaries of the Waltham Watch Company. Bacon, Church, Dennison, Fogg, Howard, Marsh, Webster, and Woerd all contributed greatly to American watchmaking. Waltham continued to manufacture watches until 1957.
• ^ Baumgartner, p. 54 • ^ • ^ Star Watch Case Company Vol 42 Issue 324 pp.
So, if people produce a reproduction dial, and again they might be selling them very innocently, the next person buys it and puts it on eBay saying it’s in mint condition, perfect all around original. The watch itself is not a reproduction, but the dial was made 10 years ago. For most collectors, if a doesn’t have an original dial, they don’t want it. I’m less picky, and because I can never afford the best of the best, I have watches in my collection that don’t have perfect dials, or they have a little crack or chip. I still prefer that over a perfect reproduction dial, because at least I know it’s original, it’s authentic. Collectors Weekly: What advice do you have for someone just starting to collect pocket watches?
I don't have quite as much detail about this watch, but inside one cover are the letters C.W.C. Co and the number 581555. Over near the side is scratched the number 19244 or 19744 in TINY hand-scratch. Honda generator year by serial number.
All of these are rules of thumb, not absolutes, there are many exceptions, especially for rule 2. Again, for the most part, case serial numbers just serve to confuse people. Jeweler marks are highlighted There are often small numbers called 'jeweler marks' scratched on the inside of the case. When a watch was brought in for repair or cleaning, the watchmaker would often, but not always, scratch some kind of code into the back of the case so that can tell if they have repaired a the watch before. Sometimes these scratches would be some form of date code, or maybe just the initials of the watch maker, often just an invoice or repair number. There was no standard across the industry and individual watchmakers may change codes over the years.
Some history: 'MR. THEOPHILUS ZURBRUGG bought out the watch case company of Leichty & Le Bouba in 1884, in Philadelphia, Pa. 'About 1888 he changed the name to the Philadelphia Watch Case Co. He made various types of cases, using a crown as one trademark and an arm and hammer as another. The company moved to Riverside, N.J. 'In 1904 this man managed a series of mergers, which brought together his own Philadelphia Watch Case Co., Bates and Bacon, Crescent and the Keystone Watch Case Co.'
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They also found that even though they were using interchangeable parts, each watch was still unique and had its own set of errors to be corrected. It took months to adjust the watches to the point where they were any better than other widely available timepieces. Customer Department at the Waltham Watch Company In 1851, the factory building was completed and the company began doing business under the name 'American Horology Company.' The first watches produced went to officials of the company, and it was not until 1853 that the first watches were offered for sale to the public.
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Thanks for reading this article on. I am not an expert on these watches by any means but I thought I would include a section on Waltham as that was where the Elgin company actually started from so in many ways their history is inter-linked. Waltham Pocket Watches Value The main question I always get asked is what is the value of a pocket watch. I can never tell you that with any degree of accuracy as there are just too many variables. There are so many things that contribute to the value of a watch that it would be unfair to even an offer an estimate.
One such military component was the top secret, used for dropping bombs accurately from airplanes in World War II. NASA [ ] Star Watch Case Company made watch cases for the model, one of which was worn by astronaut on a trip to the moon. This watch is commonly referred to as the 'Moonwatch.' Other like models of Star's were worn on various space missions.
Was merged with the Philadelphia Watch Case Co., Bates and Bacon and the Keystone Watch Case Co. From page 7: '. After a series of mergers in 1904 the name became the Keystone Watch Case Co., Riverside, N.J.' Regardless of the company’s name, the cases continued to be stamped with the previous, well-known trade names.
I have a friend who has a watch shop, and he does that for me. I do minor repair work, I’ve replaced broken glass crystals on occasion, but for the most part I try not to fiddle with them too much.
I also found watches on eBay, back when eBay was starting, the mid to late 90s, you could go on and find some good bargains. Collectors Weekly: Who’s your favorite manufacturer? “Waltham was the first American company to mass-produce watches on an assembly line.” Goldberg: I really prefer the, made by the American Waltham Watch Company in Waltham, Massachusetts. There are two things that I love about Waltham.
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If any of you nice folks are familiar with this brand, please let me know. I am wondering if it is rare? Hi Edward: Welcome to the NAWCC American Pocket Watch Message Board! Your watch is a private label watch, made by Illinois.
So, the owner would sometimes go through two or three cases over the life time of the watch. Obviously, these later cases can't be related to the movement serial number.
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Until you know what you’re looking for, you can spend a lot of money on junk. Collectors Weekly: Anything else you’d like to mention? Goldberg: I just think that are a wonderful way to own a tangible piece of history. They’re something from a bygone era that isn’t made anymore and it’s amazing that something made 100 to 200 years ago can still be running after all that time. (All images in this article courtesy Barry S.
How do I open my watch? What are jewels? How can my watch be adjusted? Are my watches really gold or gold filled? Also, European watches have foreign words written all over them and a lot of people don’t understand that they usually have nothing to do with who made the watch, they’re general descriptions on the watch.
It is dated 1906 On the movement it says: 1393458 serial number, 15 jewels & safety pinion. I wound it up just a little to see if it would work, and it runs like it was made yesterday! Looks like having it stored in the case, kept it in great condition!
Ralph: According to 'History of the American Watch Case,' Warren H. Niebling, Whitmore Publishing, Philadelphia, PA, 1971 (available on loan by mail to members from the ): From page 48: The Chicago Watch Case Co. Started in Chicago in 1882, manufacturing gold cases, mostly 10K. Around 1885, the firm moved to Brooklyn, NY, where, after a reorganization, it was renamed as the Crescent Watch Case Co. All production was sold through the Waltham Co. Agents, Robbins & Appleton.