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It has two recesses in the bridge pickup which I’m yet to see elsewhere. Also the pickups themselves have a few design flaws which they clearly hadn’t rectified at that point. The pickups sit in a metal dish which then fits into the cavity of the body/pickguard, but the screws through the top of the pickup only hold it down in place, there are no springs to automatically push the pickups up when you loosen the screws. Instead, in the dish, there are four small screws which the pickup base sits on. These screws can be driven in or out to set the height of the pickup, and the long screws through the pickup, pull the pickup down tight onto the four screw base. Not only is this a long process, but to access the screws, you first need to jimmy the pickup out of the dish which is hard enough in itself as it requires taken the strings of, and then using a small flathead screwdriver to lever the pickup out (as the pickups fit in very tightly to the dish).
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1965 to 1972 Serial Numbers The number can be found on the back of headstock or on the top edge of the headstock and (prior to 1967) with no hypen in the number. Also: “Made in USA” is stamped on the back of the headstock next to the serial number starting in June 1967 through approximately 1973. Maton Guitars, Box Hill, VIC. 42,194 likes 766 talking about this. Maton Guitars has been building high quality guitars in Australia since 1946.
This implies that a number of ukuleles built in 1930 remained in the factory until being sold in 1932. It was, after all, the depression. This would also explain why the occasional pre-1932 Martin guitar appears with a decal. Year Last Number 1903 1150 1904 1850 1905 2550 1906 3350 1907 4250 1908 5450 1909 6950 1910 8750 1911 99999. From 1970-1975 all numbers were stamped into wood and assigned a six digit number. There are many exceptions and sometimes letter prefixes were used.
Katoh and La Patrie) that are excellent guitars and sell new for less than $700. Check out websites like the acoustic centre.
I mean, who would ever expect an amp like this to show up in Holland? I only bought it for my collection, not for serious use. One can buy a much more useful amp for what I paid for it, but for a Maton collector like me, this was a nice and unique purchase, especially if you know that Australia is totally on the other side of the planet! It does not seem to have any model number or so and it does not look like any of the Maton amps on the Maton Museum website, so I am puzzled. The name Maton is in an unusual font type, not like the later logos, but the Maton name seems to be original, not applied later. I have not checked the inside of the amp yet, but apparently it has two ECL86 pushpull valves and one ECC83 preamp. It has high and low input, a “beat” (tremolo) with speed control, and it is hotwired, so it must be rather old.
Here’s an update on all things Maton that I’ve come across in the last few weeks. This week I’ve spent more time on a computer than on a guitar, but I thought I’d show you what I’ve come across.
Bare bones models built in the same factory as more expensive Maton’s but geared towards kids and students. Their range went from ‘toy’ guitars like these to basic cutaway jazz guitars with single coil pickups. This is the Australian version of the Sear cowboy guitar from the 50′s and is one of the nicest I’ve seen. That cowboy decal is a work of art, especially sitting on that vintage violin burst. Like their American versions, these are made of cheaper woods than Maton’s regular models but their boxy/banjo sound has it’s own charm. Plus they’d made a fantastic sounding slide guitar. Next up on eBay is a very rare thing a Maton guitar amp.
However, it has come to light recently that the Kalamazoo plant did not directly switch over to the “new” 8 digit serialization method in 1977. When the Nashville Gibson plant was opened in 1974, it was decided that the bulk of the production of products would be run in the South; the Kalamazoo plant would produce the higher end (fancier) models in the North. Of course, many of the older guitar builders and craftsmen were still in Kalamazoo; and if they weren’t ready to change how they built guitars, then they may not have been ready to change how they numbered them! Certain guitar models built in the late 1970s can be used to demonstrate the old-style 6 digit serial numbers.
So double check the serial numbers on those 1970s L-5s, Super 400s, and Super 5 BJBs! Gibson’s Factory Order Number (FON) System In addition to the above serial number information, Gibson also used Factory Order Numbers (FON) to track batches of instruments being produced at the time. In the earlier years at Gibson, guitars were normally built in batches of 40 instruments. Gibson’s Factory Order Numbers were an internal coding that followed the group of instruments through the factory.
Looking at the photos and of the late Ron Dent’s beautiful white Fyrbyrd, I noticed the dot markers were the same 14th & 16th position as the #4 Fyrbyrd above. This, along with the fact Ron’s Fyrbyrd is white with a black scratchplate would make this Fyrbyrd a VERY rare early example. I have a Maton Fyrbyrd.
I am the owner of a c30 which I picked up at a local antique shop a year or so ago. The serial number is 416 so I gather she is very early of the production line and unfortunately the condition reflects that, but in its favour no one has attempted any botch up repairs and I am sure a good builder could restore it to its former glory. I would be pleased to hear from you at the e-mail above. In regard's to F10 MATON 1969 A nylon string guitar is not a great seller,id have to say i play Guitar and am a Collector of Maton Guitar's,and that would be one model would not look at buying,Now when you say really good condition what do you really mean by that?
The serial no is 137. Went over to Maton (when it was still at Canterbury) to see it finished off and take it home.
So fast adjustments are completely out of the question! Furthermore, the screws from both the top of the pickup and from the bottom of the dish, are too long for the cavity, so when they are fully driven down, they start pushing the pickup and pickguard back up. Unfortunately, even at their lowest adjustment, the pickups are still too close to the strings, so I removed the screws in the dishes completely, and since the pickups fit into the dishes tightly, I removed the long screws too. This gave me an extra 1.5mm (thickness of the screw heads) to lower the pickups and action, making it more playable still. When I got it, the middle pickup quickly stopped working, but luckily it was due to the very old braided wiring coming apart. The frets also were in a pretty rough condition and absolutely destroyed the first set of strings I put on there, plus there was a bit of buzzing on the higher notes. I had Paul Dalby at the Music Swop Shop do a fret dress on it which made it far more pleasurable to play instantly.
The serial number would properly indicate the actual date of the guitar. FON examples run thus: • Y 2230 21 • V 4867 8 • R 6785 15 Code Letter and Year • Z 1952 • Y 1953 • X 1954 • W 1955 • V 1956 • U 1957 • T 1958 • S 1959 • R 1960 • Q 1961 After 1961 the use of FONs was discontinued at Gibson. There are still some variances that Gibson uses on some instruments produced today, but for the most part the above can be used for identifying instruments. For the most accurate identification you would need to contact the Gibson Guitar Corporation itself. Serial # Model # Approx. Before 1965 it is possible to determine the approximate date of the instrument by it’s serial number but a more accurate method is to consider both the serial number and the appropriate specifications together. The system of numbering at the Brooklyn Gretsch factory was approximate at best and many inconsistencies exist in both serial numbers and product line specifications.
How is my old baby going! My current list that I will be taking pics of and showing to you all once two of them come back from being restored! Hi Greg, your JB-6 baby is in good hands, and it feels so much at home among some very nice other Matons. I play it in my band and I love the smooth neck. It has obviously been played a lot, but it almost feels as if it plays better because of that rich experience. And the variation of sounds is great, partially thanks to the possibility to switch between humbucker and single coil.
Owned by my ex wifes father, who was a guitar teacher. Its in good nick, tonality is great, but have not done anything to clean it up/bring it up to date. Bar minor scratches, would like to sell, at a fair price.
When both numbers are present on a higher grade model, remember that the FON was assigned at the beginning of the production run, while the serial number was recorded later (before shipping). The serial number would properly indicate the actual date of the guitar. FON examples run thus: • Y 2230 21 • V 4867 8 • R 6785 15 Code Letter and Year • Z 1952 • Y 1953 • X 1954 • W 1955 • V 1956 • U 1957 • T 1958 • S 1959 • R 1960 • Q 1961 After 1961 the use of FONs was discontinued at Gibson.
Buy it for your collection, not for your child to study guitar. For the same money, you can buy much better student guitars, I think. I am curious if it will sell (no, I am not bidding, one is enough). Oh, and Tex: what a great amp!! I am a bit envious. Does it really still work??
After a visit to a friend who had just spray painted his fridge 'positano yellow' and was eager to unleash his new found creative talent, the Maton was masked up and sprayed in the U.S. Stars and stripes. Came out quite well but the days of the Maton's status as a mint collectible were over. My next Maton, which I bought new and still own, is a mint condition 1964 DC 545 'crab claw' double cutaway. The serial number is 231. This seems like a low number and it would be interesting to know how many were made. The guitar still has the music store's sticker on the back of the head.
It’s like a cross between a Les Paul Jr, a Mastersound and a Fyrbyrd ‘Sharkbite’. Here’s some pix Look at the pinstriping on that headstock! *droolz* But the BEST thing about the email was that it also contained a picture of the Maton Big Ben Bass it’s even cooler looking than I thought. And also, look closely at the Mastersound on the left. See the headstock? It’s actually a Fyrbyrd headstock. I’ve NEVER seen one of those in the flesh.
If they ask me what it is worth i give them an honest answer with an honest value to me as a collector to buy this particular guitar. I personally own 37 matons in my collection and I have paid alot for some of them and others I have found as bargains. People like yourself have to be careful too that you dont give people a false representation of worth from the other extent ie over valuing guitars.This is what a certain person in sydney who shall remain nameless due to his recent receivership status and all his customers that now have lost $805,000 worth of consignment vintage guitars. I am sure if you are knowledgable you know EXACTLY who I am talking about! You seem like a person who sold something and then was told it was worth more or realised it was.
It’s hard to see, but the serial number is still visible, and this is number 104. Going off what I’ve picked up (that Maton Serial numbers start at 100), I believe this makes it the fourth Fyrbyrd ever made. It also has some other tell tale features about it that suggest it was made very early in the production of Fyrbyrds. It has the rare 14th and 16th Fret markers as opposed to the standard 15th and 17th markers (which takes a while to get used to at first!).
Most of them live in Australia, I guess. I am perhaps one of the very few Maton collectors in The Netherlands (Europe). In fact, I don’t know of any other yet. If there is anyone else from Holland, please let me know! By coincidence (or not) I have had contact with another follower of your site (Greg). I bought his Maton JB-6, very similar to the pictures of the JB-6 on your site, with small differences.
• 1 or 2 digits before hyphen month (1-12) • First digit after hyphen last digit of year • Last 3 digits rank of instrument Example: • 10-5155 October 1975, 155th instrument • 4-622 April 1976, 22nd instrument. 1900-1970 Sequential-listed below 1-6 digits stamped into the top edge of the headstock-often difficult to read. Some banjo models have the serial number stamped on the inside of the rim.
Hey i just inherited a Maton acoustic guitar it is a C.25 in what i would deem near flawless quality but i would assume to a more guitar minded person they would find minor flaws but not anything really that would be to bad about it im just wondering if anyone could give me any further information on it as google isnt providing me with much its a Maton C.25 serial number is 228 (568) please email me with any info you have regarding it as i would love for it to goto someone that is going to use it as im not a music person my email address is lolymonster@hotmail.com. I brought this guitar second hand from Palings in about 1967 & for most of those years the case has not been opened. I used it for lessons over a couple of years early on and then again more recently. The basic condition is good with no obvious areas of wear due to use (other than some scuffing from the plectrum). There are two small chips on the soundboard and some light scratches on the sides. The top coast is obviously aging.
I mean how many acoustics does Maton need to sell? With a history like theirs it would be so fun (for both them & us) to do small low run reissues here and there.
The orange labels inside hollow bodied instruments were discontinued in 1970 and replaced by white and orange rectangle labels on the acoustics and small black, purple and white rectangle labels were used on electric models. In 1970, the words “MADE IN USA” was stamped into instrument headstocks (though a few instruments from the 1950s also had MADE IN USA stamped into their headstocks). Year(s) and Approximate Serial Numbers • 1970, 1971, and 1972 100000s, 600000s, 700000s, 900000s • 1973 000001s, 100000s, 200000s, 800000s and a few “A” + 6 digit numbers • 1974 and 1975 100000s, 200000s, 300000s, 400000s, 500000s, 600000s, 800000s and a few A-B-C-D-E-F + 6 digit numbers During the period from 1975-1977 Gibson used a transfer that had eight digit numbers, the first two indicate the year, 99=1975, 00=1976 and 06=1977, the following six digits are in the 100000 to 200000 range. MADE IN USA were also included on the transfer and some models had LIMITED EDITION also applied.
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Thus, the older Gibson guitars may have a serial number and a Factory Order Number. The FON may indicate the year, batch number, and the ranking (order of production within the batch of 40). This system is useful in helping to date and authenticate instruments. There are three separate groupings of numbers that have been identified and are used for their accuracy. The numbers are usually stamped or written on the instrument’s back and seen through the lower F hole or round soundhole, or maybe impressed on the back of the headstock. 1908-1923 Approximate #s.
It has the hint of a ‘V’ profile in the neck which is also quite a full shape more like a gibson than a fender. Very nice to play.
The one you picture is exactly the same as the one I had. I still pine for it.
It kind of looked like an Australian copy of the Gibson model that Chuck Berry used It had all been revarnished and painted out, but it sounded great. It made a great record [I got it from] some guy who stayed at my pad.
He crashed out for a couple of days and suddenly left in a hurry, leaving that guitar behind. You know: Take care of this for me. I certainly did! But it served me well through the album.
It would not be able to compete with a real drummer. But it is in full working order, very quiet and a warm valve sound, so I am happy to find it.
On which albums, songs and/or tours did he use the JB6? Is the JB6 mentioned on any Santana album? Is there any DVD or Youtube movie with Santana playing a JB6? Please let me know!!
Until the late 1930's the Australian guitar manufacturing industry was virtually non existent and good quality guitars were hard to find. The best guitars, it was well understood, came from the U.S.A. Bill May, a Melbourne born jazz musician, woodwork teacher, and luthier, decided to change all that. Maton are Australia's leading manufacturer of Acoustic and Acoustic / Electric Guitars. We pride ourselves on making the best guitars possible at a price musicians can afford!